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archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's

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just another night for Supernatural

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girls real stories real answers to

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life's biggest supernatural mysteries

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and now for another exciting interview

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with Errol experts in this world and

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others here's your host paranormal

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researcher Patricia Baker on the one the

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welcome everyone to another exciting

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episode of Supernatural girls radio I am

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your host Patricia Baker and I'm here

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with my co-host all the way from Tucson

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Patricia Kirkman PK how you doing

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tonight fabulous we had rain last night

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and we've had rain and off today yeah

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Wow good for the double the double

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digits it was like I think wave at 20

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degrees is amazing been suffering here

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with sign know you very alright it's

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gonna be the 70s in the next day or two

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but it's okay I won't throw that at you

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listen night this is a guest I've been

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really excited about getting on the air

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haven't you oh definitely and after I

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read the book oh my goodness gracious I

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know it's a great book we've got Nigel

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Koerner he has written a book knows

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several books but the one we're talking

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about tonight

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is grey aliens and the harvesting of

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souls we're gonna get into this whole

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explanation of how and why this is

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happening and guess what we do believe

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that he's right this is happening so

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minutes but before we do that

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miss Kirkman yes ma'am what's going on

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with the numbers you got to know where

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firstly it's a month of creativity we've

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talked about that but creativity is key

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in communications and because it's

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creative let's use metaphysics and

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getting some real answers I think that's

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really important for us I think if we

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learned how to meditate use the skills

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that we have and looking into the spaces

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around us to find out where we can put

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some of these I'll sake unlearn skills

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that need to be learned say like your

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dreams you are an expert in dream

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interpretation and working with people

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for that and people should contact you

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about that by the way how else are they

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going to learn it's hard for us

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to work these things by ourselves we

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need people that are willing to teach us

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a little bit more of how to reach out

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and get the information we need there's

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going to be all kinds of information

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coming all month and information about

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UFOs possibly coming you think I think

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we're going to hear more and more about

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this is in community s all forms is wrap

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it up at the door ready to just jump in

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at us and I will have to throw out there

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secrets are gonna be made known some

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more this month so I'll this month is

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about gossip gossiping or let's get out

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there but we think we know and in spite

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of all that we're gonna really find out

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what we need to know so I think that's

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good I think that's all good because as

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you well know there's been a lot of

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Secrets kept from us we're talking about

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a real big one tonight and there's been

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things going on in the government we

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hear we hear that there may be some

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arrests coming and it's gonna blow

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everybody's mind but we've heard it you

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know we're gonna see if it's just gonna

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happen and I think it will I think it

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will Salani stuff coming right well I

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think in terms of this this is all about

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communication of all forms and things

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being and I said use the phrase gossip

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before but gossip is many times the most

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realistic form of information that we've

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got out there because the other thing

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they shove under the corners but we've

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got all that coming to us but we're

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getting ready to go into looking at what

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we can creatively next month it's going

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to be about restrictions and limitations

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so we've got three weeks to get this

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stuff out there it out in about so that

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we're not behind the eight-ball when

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they start talking about what we know

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they're going to talk about yes oh boy

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well this is going to be very exciting

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so yes dream analysis and also visiting

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your website Patricia Kirkman comm get a

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reading from Patricia your numbers and

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what's coming up for you personally this

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is the best way to do it and to find out

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what your hidden secrets are and what

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you need to deal with to make your life

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better and that's that Patricia Kirkman

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calm you can find both of us on our

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website

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supernatural girls calm you can just

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click on our email say hello send us a

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copy of a dream you want interpreted or

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send Patricia a request with your

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birthday and birth name and we will take

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it from there and stomp fast I couldn't

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even hit the mute button well that's

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we know you're real down but this is

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lying about the dream interpretation and

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dreams I was kind of like well you know

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the more we've talked about it and the

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more you've told me about it and the

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more I've worked with it I find that I'm

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starting to actually dream I never

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thought I did

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isn't that interesting paying attention

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and now you have dreams to work with

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giving you inner knowledge you know that

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is the way to go in my opinion you want

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that inner knowledge it's not out there

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it's in here and the exactly right way

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great way to access it and I also want

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to mention this I hate to bring it up

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you know I hate to bring up property Rex

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why I hate it I hate it but we have a

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book on our website are you getting

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screwed on your property taxes how to

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find out and how to fix it and let me

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tell you what you better read this book

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it is on Amazon you can click it on our

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website and go right to that link and

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pick up a copy it's on Kindle so you can

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read it easily on your machine whatever

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machine you used to read but let me tell

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you if you think the Assessors got it

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right you better check you better check

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their math you better check the

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evaluation of your property and this

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book will tell you how to read your

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property record card and how to fight

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the system if you have to it's not an

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easy system to fight everything's just

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stacked and I mean stacked to the

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ceiling against this

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it's your sword of justice so again it's

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on our website yes if you if you have

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property if your own property chances

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are you are getting screwed so pick up a

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copy of that book and you will be in the

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right place to get it all figured out

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and fit

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as much as you can with this rotten

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system that's in place so anyways we

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also have opus mega Kabbalistic um

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translated from all German that is a

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great book and as lon drew cut told us

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about this book when he was blindfolded

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they have these amazing meetings for the

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occult guess what was in their library

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this book he said this was the Harry

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Potter library he said it was the most

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amazing library it's ever seen and there

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find that on our website and I highly

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recommend you pick up a copy it is all

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time knowledge that you can use today

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very very fascinating fascinating book

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cannabis as a spiritual ally we did that

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last week and also had a Parsi book and

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to talk about the crazy laws and what's

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used as a spiritual ally like ayahuasca

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man on our show right he is staying up

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very late at night there's the book this

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isn't a book rattle dog fabulous

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he is an amazing man he's a screenwriter

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he's a journalist and he's the author of

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another book called the song of the

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greys and we just heard he has a third

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book coming out maybe he'll reveal a

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little bit of that well he's on the air

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with us tonight but he has put together

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quite quite a book on the harvesting of

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souls which again we think he's writing

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on the money with us we're gonna hear

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all about it so let's get him on the

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show you guys I hope you're not snowed

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England Nigel well let's get started on

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this this subject is fascinating and you

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know it's one of the most exciting

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subjects for our audience and we all

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want to know more about all of this but

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how did you get started with this whole

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topic of UFOs there's a personal story

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isn't it as I said my side of the

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learning is in science mainly and it was

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wasn't it wasn't anything to do with

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UFOs or anything like that these what I

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think I considered to be rather exotic

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subjects and so forth I'm a real

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down-to-earth Monday no individual and

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my little my children actually keep me

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an interesting thing and some years ago

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as I said earlier my young boy who is

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well hitched up between the years and

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usually very adept at getting me in real

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trouble after researching subjects and

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coming and asking me pointed questions

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where I end up with egg on my face

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once that question was will I had a bit

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of a reputation as a writer at the time

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and so I decided to actually take him up

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on this and dis affect him of the idea

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and say that Star Wars is strictly for

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Hollywood and you were skeptic when you

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started out I was gonna tell my son look

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this is nonsense

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and I'll show you why it's nonsense I

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will demonstrate it logically and I took

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to all the research I could do in a week

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I asked for a year a week's rain check

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on his question and I went and I looked

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and as I looked more and more into it I

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couldn't took the subject down I found

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that I was getting more and more

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fascinated by the contradictions I was

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getting and to my premise that all of

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this was in fact really some blue sky

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thing there was nothing to it however 40

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odd years later and three and four books

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almost passed it with commentaries

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coming from all over the world in in a

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research team of my own that has to

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stand out to some very sharp questions

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based upon logic and rationale I decided

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that this would be something to really

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look at over the years

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and I've discovered that our world is

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not what it seems to be at all and that

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and of course and you know ordinary

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people sitting at home trying to answer

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the day's questions you know and so

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forth I do live a productive life and

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all the rest of it that's really

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wonderful

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but I had to understand what thought was

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how do we know things where does do

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these actually being things actually

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manifest in terms of our bodies how do

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we pick those up do we make it in our

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brains

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we just our body's just an aerial that

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actually pick up these incredible

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amorphous thing thing that cannot be

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touched or or actually verified

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physically all these things have to be

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looked at if you want the world to take

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you seriously these days particularly as

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science is advancing so quickly and

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everything can be proved in tangible

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ways if you see what I mean

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Patricia so it's not something that we

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can take lightly if we're serious and we

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really want to look at these things and

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of course my approach is much more that

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and as I've gone along of course I've

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got far more into the human dimension of

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things and discovered that we as beings

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are just one wondrous thing no matter

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what we are how badly things of treated

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the life is treated also where we've

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taken ourselves we might call ourselves

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losers or winners or whatever it is the

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one glorious thing that makes us so

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wonderful and precious is life is living

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this and that in this world there are

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two things basically fundamentally that

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which lives has life and that which does

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not live synthetic things things we make

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we manufacture and produce and this UFO

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phenomenon really deals with that second

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Department things that somewhere natural

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beings natural living beings create as

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utilities to do their their work as we

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do with robots now you know make things

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simple for us in the garden whatever and

335
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do the utilities of our life and these

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things if you make them sophisticated

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enough and we're trying to do that now

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the great lesson is don't don't ever do

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that if we make robots and robots with

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artificial intelligence our living this

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will be over and I'll tell you why you

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know in 125 or maybe 150 years shall we

343
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say on the outside we have invented

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technology that's all it's only 150

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years and we've got all the things we've

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done gone to the moon past the moon all

347
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the marvelous thing just in 150 260

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years

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so to speak from technology now can you

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imagine out there in the universe a

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planet that might have evolved for ten

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thousand years like that

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what they could be doing that's a huge

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thought and of course I looked at him in

355
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that kind of context and thought what

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might be possibly four hundred and sixty

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years can give us all these incredible

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things what if there are planets out

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there there have to be they're finding

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thousands of them now like our earth you

361
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know in space through telescopes or

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whatever so we therefore have a big deal

363
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on our hands here if one of these things

364
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comes here or sends a load of there are

365
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those things here so we say what are we

366
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going to do in the stare of these

367
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incredible things and it seems that for

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the last hundred years or so we have the

369
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technology to actually make records of

370
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these things and see now that we are not

371
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alone in the universe that these things

372
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are here they are here for something and

373
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that something may well be the

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propensity we have to actually live and

375
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how they themselves can use that living

376
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capacity we have for their benefit

377
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because these are ro boys you can't

378
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travel at eight thousand miles an hour

379
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in a vehicle and stop or move so that

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you can cover our planet without of

381
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being a staying inside the window

382
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gravity will smash you two apart

383
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so biological beings can't fly these

384
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things it has to be some kind of machine

385
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that can withstand those forces so if

386
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machines are flying in this UFO is

387
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traveling at eight thousand to thirty

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thousand miles an hour

389
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I believe Gordon Cooper saw on one of

390
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your astronauts so on moving at thirty

391
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third they all came to the idea you know

392
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as a very reputable chap ed Mitchell

393
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would say my goodness this is incredible

394
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they are here so what do we do as a

395
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family of living beings humankind with a

396
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proposition like this facing us and

397
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that's what led me to write the books to

398
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ask questions of our consciences and so

399
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on what as human beings do

400
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we do with this dilemma sorry about most

401
00:18:59,820 --> 00:18:56,080
but I ya know this is a you gave us a

402
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great preamble situation we need to

403
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:06,520
think we need to think we do we have to

404
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have it's a very big deal and and of

405
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course then we have adversarial

406
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situations at the same time with the

407
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government that has information and

408
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won't release it so then also trying to

409
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discredit people who have information

410
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and who've been trying to spread the

411
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information so so we've got these

412
00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:30,280
adversarial elements that don't want us

413
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:32,830
to know the things that you're trying to

414
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find out and we've all been trying to

415
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fight out indeed Patricia the thing is

416
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they make us so small when we want to

417
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know their size is so huge these

418
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agencies what would it be if people

419
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easing is coming from Farley it's a

420
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fairly advanced planet and and far crys

421
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in the universe come to our planet would

422
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they not be now in charge of course

423
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there would be in charge if they are in

424
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charge

425
00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:03,130
are we in fact at the end of what

426
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they're giving us if they come here from

427
00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:08,050
something that's so highly developed

428
00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:09,940
they can travel at thirty thousand miles

429
00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:12,430
an hour when our planes can't reach one

430
00:20:19,050 --> 00:20:15,340
tenth of that you know then we have to

431
00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:19,060
ask the question who is in charge yeah

432
00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:31,390
we'd like to know we are you know

433
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because I think if these are machines

434
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:36,610
they are controllable by us if we know

435
00:20:43,050 --> 00:20:39,570
they are that and that we are doing

436
00:20:46,290 --> 00:20:43,060
wonderful beings we may have a facility

437
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,300
that they can't ever have and they want

438
00:20:51,630 --> 00:20:48,400
because remember they've come here as

439
00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:51,640
machines to manipulate something that

440
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,980
they found on our little planet which

441
00:20:59,250 --> 00:20:56,320
makes humanity something romantically

442
00:21:01,260 --> 00:20:59,260
beautiful but very powerful because we

443
00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:01,270
can think we can know and

444
00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:05,110
they are just artificial computers that

445
00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:08,230
add knowledge on and don't understand

446
00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:10,870
that they even exist just like any

447
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:13,990
computer doesn't know it is thinking or

448
00:21:18,030 --> 00:21:16,210
it's doing what it's doing if you see

449
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:18,040
what I mean so we have an advantage over

450
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,190
them we must know what they are and

451
00:21:27,210 --> 00:21:22,960
that's why I've written the books and

452
00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:27,220
try to ask people tell your story you

453
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:29,470
know all over the world and then maybe

454
00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:32,650
this little family of ours of whatever 7

455
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:34,420
million 7 billion people on the earth

456
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might be able to actually know where we

457
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are going and withstand any threat that

458
00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:42,400
might come from something even ten

459
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thousand years old simply because they

460
00:21:56,370 --> 00:21:55,180
are artificial and not living and so you

461
00:22:01,500 --> 00:21:56,380
know it's a wonderful thing to talk

462
00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:01,510
about motion I what I've here would you

463
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:02,260
say Nigel

464
00:22:08,490 --> 00:22:05,410
they have no emotion they can think by

465
00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:08,500
what their program is but where we have

466
00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:11,740
the emotional element to feel they can

467
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:14,350
never have that absolutely and that is

468
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:15,970
our great advantage no matter how

469
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:18,610
primitive we might be that marvelous

470
00:22:23,670 --> 00:22:21,130
facility is that you've so erudite ly

471
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affirmed in your statement is there are

472
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great and wondrous capacity to survive

473
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and we have to know though how we are as

474
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a living entity against how they're as a

475
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nonliving one and their sophistication

476
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is quantum computer and we're building

477
00:22:45,150 --> 00:22:43,030
them down and these things are beating

478
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our thinking process is now you know in

479
00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:46,720
taking on games or whatever it is

480
00:22:51,210 --> 00:22:48,460
they're showing on that if you make that

481
00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:51,220
happen they can beat us but as you say

482
00:22:59,730 --> 00:22:54,790
they can't no they can't feel they can't

483
00:23:07,470 --> 00:22:59,740
love they can't tangibly offer that

484
00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:07,480
sense of togetherness and Union and they

485
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:09,430
can't change their mind their programs

486
00:23:15,030 --> 00:23:11,770
run them in a given direction they

487
00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:15,040
cannot and on institutionally change but

488
00:23:21,690 --> 00:23:17,830
can if we're alive so in my books I

489
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:21,700
contrast living natural being against

490
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:24,610
very very sophisticated synthetic

491
00:23:29,610 --> 00:23:27,760
made-up beings that are I think the

492
00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:29,620
future of a lot of the planets out there

493
00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:32,020
in the universe we haven't yet can come

494
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to that state and we ought to take

495
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:36,190
notice before we allow that to happen

496
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:39,010
what a dangerous thing that might be and

497
00:23:44,370 --> 00:23:41,170
that's simply what I say in the book you

498
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:44,380
know the harvest is actually a title

499
00:23:48,570 --> 00:23:46,690
given by my publishers unfortunately I

500
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:48,580
have to be published by very reputable

501
00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:51,370
publishing houses and so even though I

502
00:23:55,410 --> 00:23:54,040
gave the my own title for this book they

503
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:55,420
thought that it would tell more

504
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,370
properties if they call it called it

505
00:24:09,780 --> 00:23:59,440
something about stealing Souls now I

506
00:24:12,930 --> 00:24:09,790
have to justify that of course a

507
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:12,940
question here from our chat room this is

508
00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:15,370
from storm trooper what about the theory

509
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:16,900
that these crafts aren't moving that

510
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:19,120
fast through the universe because they

511
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:21,130
are simply slipping through dimensions

512
00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:23,170
and that for them is only a short

513
00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:25,990
journey well they'll have to be fine for

514
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:27,940
me what they mean by a dimension a

515
00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:30,640
dimension can be aside I want to get too

516
00:24:36,420 --> 00:24:33,070
technical about this a spatial quantum

517
00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:36,430
or a mental quantum and so if you think

518
00:24:41,670 --> 00:24:39,400
dimensionally in a mental sense there is

519
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,680
nothing there to change but you would

520
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:42,960
think of it in terms of a physical

521
00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:45,850
spatial actual spatial sense like length

522
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:47,920
breadth and height then there are things

523
00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:50,530
to be changed mechanically and that's a

524
00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:52,870
different mode modus operandi altogether

525
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,960
so it's really a technical situation but

526
00:25:02,220 --> 00:24:58,480
I take your point yes

527
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:02,230
to know something is in itself a

528
00:25:07,710 --> 00:25:05,170
dimension of knowing that thing so you

529
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:07,720
have a dimension of an idea if you look

530
00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:10,330
at your room all of that conceptual all

531
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:12,430
that's in that room is a dimension of

532
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:14,890
how that thing reflects in your mind so

533
00:25:22,290 --> 00:25:17,440
that's a mental dimension if you see

534
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,300
what I'm trying to say Hardware stuff

535
00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:24,640
and that's something much different

536
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:26,980
that's mechanical you can actually have

537
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:28,870
to physically change that and so

538
00:25:34,049 --> 00:25:30,850
she's got different things you're

539
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:34,059
looking at yeah you know you've got to

540
00:25:42,539 --> 00:25:37,120
define it in this world you can't just

541
00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:42,549
make the claim Yeah right there's again

542
00:25:46,529 --> 00:25:44,260
this is where it's unfortunate that our

543
00:25:48,299 --> 00:25:46,539
government or shadow government or

544
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,309
whomever has all the information here

545
00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:50,559
doesn't step forward and start sharing

546
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:53,080
more of it so we're left to basically

547
00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:55,690
guess at what we know or what we're

548
00:26:01,080 --> 00:25:57,480
seeing but these are all good questions

549
00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:01,090
for people to ask I think and here's

550
00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:02,230
another one

551
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:04,600
this is from gray being and then we're

552
00:26:09,779 --> 00:26:05,980
gonna have to go to a short break

553
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:09,789
are these oops these droids totally self

554
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:12,610
efficient where they can rationalize and

555
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:14,770
they are programmed for the task to

556
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:17,320
collect data on earth to return the info

557
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:19,450
to the engineers who design them is that

558
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:22,510
one of their tasks well you know when

559
00:26:26,399 --> 00:26:24,010
you're travelling at thirty thousand

560
00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:26,409
miles an hour or you have these things

561
00:26:34,529 --> 00:26:29,470
tapping energy from the Sun you actually

562
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:34,539
see them huge huge masses ships they

563
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:36,690
call them there's some kind of craft

564
00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:40,090
putting out energy from the Sun so much

565
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:42,340
verification of these things that can't

566
00:26:47,070 --> 00:26:43,360
they can't be faked

567
00:26:50,669 --> 00:26:47,080
well what are these things gathering

568
00:26:53,310 --> 00:26:50,679
that massive amount of energy for we've

569
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:53,320
got this planet we can't even run on

570
00:26:58,820 --> 00:26:55,990
fossil fuels without poisoning it and

571
00:27:03,060 --> 00:26:58,830
these things can tap plasma from the Sun

572
00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:03,070
in sizes as big as our planet some of

573
00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:03,700
these things

574
00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:05,350
some are even bigger than our planet

575
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:07,720
they come to our Sun and tap this energy

576
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:10,630
well what kind of thing is this why are

577
00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:12,610
they here why haven't they taken us over

578
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:14,380
what are they here for

579
00:27:19,049 --> 00:27:16,840
if something's stopping them it's more

580
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:19,059
likely that something we have is

581
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:21,370
actually stopping them and that would be

582
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,110
nice to know wouldn't it yeah you've

583
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,880
talked a little bit in your book about

584
00:27:34,289 --> 00:27:32,799
melanin in the skin and that's

585
00:27:36,930 --> 00:27:34,299
interesting we're going to have to get a

586
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,940
little bit more into that but I mean

587
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:39,120
these are all very important questions

588
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:41,950
because we are being

589
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:44,289
mind for certain things we're being

590
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,970
taken for certain things and as David

591
00:27:53,549 --> 00:27:51,039
Jacobs who's a friend of yours also in a

592
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:53,559
friend of ours has said there are

593
00:27:58,980 --> 00:27:56,370
hybrids already here living among us and

594
00:28:02,279 --> 00:27:58,990
the people who have been abducted

595
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:02,289
according to David are being taken now

596
00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:04,809
to train those hybrids how to fit in as

597
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:07,990
humans yeah indeed and why are they

598
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:10,090
doing that why can they not if they

599
00:28:15,450 --> 00:28:12,120
really I have all that technology so

600
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:15,460
simply take us over why do they have to

601
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,970
actually replace us piece by piece

602
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:21,279
there must be something within some

603
00:28:27,090 --> 00:28:23,860
human beings that resist them doing this

604
00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:27,100
and my idea was to try to find out what

605
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,580
this magic ingredient might be and one

606
00:28:35,159 --> 00:28:32,080
of the things I was looking at was a

607
00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:35,169
pigment called melanin which actually is

608
00:28:39,629 --> 00:28:37,630
very important you know Patricia if I

609
00:28:41,879 --> 00:28:39,639
might just take a moment to explain this

610
00:28:45,389 --> 00:28:41,889
I hope it's not too complex in our DNA

611
00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:45,399
which makes and dictates what we shaped

612
00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:47,830
like and what we are made of there are

613
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:50,830
these codes and chemicals in a certain

614
00:28:57,149 --> 00:28:54,100
sequence if you alter those codes then

615
00:29:00,810 --> 00:28:57,159
the DNA produces another shape a protein

616
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:00,820
so the DNA is like a special blueprint

617
00:29:06,419 --> 00:29:04,330
that will make whatever that DNA in its

618
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:06,429
sequence says you have to make and then

619
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:08,769
we make human beings or animals or

620
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:11,710
whatever from it now the thing about

621
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:14,529
that is in order to change those codes

622
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:17,590
you have to get to the DNA and the DNA

623
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:20,710
is in the center of every cell in its

624
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:24,010
nucleus and all our DNA the plan so to

625
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:25,840
speak they're the actual

626
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:28,380
the plants from which everything is made

627
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:31,210
inside the middle of the cell in the

628
00:29:34,889 --> 00:29:33,370
nucleus right okay we're gonna have to

629
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:34,899
stop there for a second Nigel because

630
00:29:39,330 --> 00:29:36,809
we're going to have to take a very short

631
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:39,340
commercial break but we are going to

632
00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:42,070
come back and everybody buckle up I mean

633
00:29:46,830 --> 00:29:44,409
this is going to be a really exciting

634
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:46,840
ride as we continue to talk about

635
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:50,200
stealing Souls and Nigel Turner's book

636
00:29:58,700 --> 00:29:55,370
which is gray aliens and the harvesting

637
00:29:59,720 --> 00:29:58,710
great great great stuff so okay

638
00:30:02,300 --> 00:29:59,730
everybody you are listening to

639
00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:02,310
Supernatural girls radio and we'll be

640
00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:03,870
right back welcome back everyone to

641
00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:06,150
Supernatural girls radio I'm your host

642
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Patricia Baker and I am here with my

643
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:09,690
co-host pk

644
00:30:15,650 --> 00:30:13,230
and our terrific guest tonight it is

645
00:30:18,530 --> 00:30:15,660
Nigel Koerner and we're talking about

646
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:18,540
the greys and what their agenda is here

647
00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:20,580
on the planet there's that beautiful

648
00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:24,150
book PK's holding up and we were just in

649
00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:25,620
the middle before the break of a

650
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:29,460
discussion about melanin and how that

651
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,250
affects the way extraterrestrials

652
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:34,320
contact us or don't so tell us more

653
00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:37,980
about this Nigel crucial thing was I

654
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:41,390
think this happened in on our planet

655
00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:44,520
200,000 years ago we've found a species

656
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:46,260
called human being somewhere in the

657
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:48,570
world but they want they founded that

658
00:30:55,490 --> 00:30:52,140
species didn't have the capacity to

659
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:55,500
understand the kind of machine type

660
00:31:00,740 --> 00:30:57,690
quantum psychology that these things

661
00:31:03,650 --> 00:31:00,750
were so they had to adapt the species to

662
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:03,660
be able to understand that and so they

663
00:31:08,780 --> 00:31:05,730
said about genetically altering our

664
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:08,790
species to do that you had to get to the

665
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:11,610
melanin do that to get to the center of

666
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:14,250
the cell where the genes were stored in

667
00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:17,940
chromosomes and those chromosomes were

668
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:20,580
in what they call the nucleus of the

669
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:23,670
cell ah but they ran up with a problem

670
00:31:30,370 --> 00:31:26,640
they couldn't get into the center of

671
00:31:35,270 --> 00:31:30,380
those cell of that core that that

672
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:35,280
central area the the nucleus because it

673
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:37,890
was surrounded the first people I met

674
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:40,740
were Africans well where are all the

675
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:42,930
people on the earth when they came or in

676
00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:46,050
the mid band of the planet in the dark

677
00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:47,430
in the areas where there was a lot of

678
00:31:51,020 --> 00:31:47,940
sunshine

679
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:51,030
now these Africans had therefore had

680
00:31:58,250 --> 00:31:55,050
round nucleus these melanin granules

681
00:32:02,810 --> 00:31:58,260
that stop the Sun from actually

682
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:02,820
radiating the DNA and altering it it was

683
00:32:08,270 --> 00:32:05,970
a protection from ultraviolet light

684
00:32:10,910 --> 00:32:08,280
coming in melon and absorb the light

685
00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:10,920
and that light then couldn't change the

686
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:13,080
DNA's so that the whole species

687
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:16,890
prospered within that normality however

688
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,470
when these things came here they found

689
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:21,200
that they neither the capacity to rise

690
00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:23,670
but they couldn't get through the

691
00:32:28,790 --> 00:32:26,190
melanin because the thing that they use

692
00:32:32,210 --> 00:32:28,800
a surgical knife they use to try to cut

693
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:32,220
in there into the center was in fact

694
00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:34,850
light ultraviolet light and

695
00:32:41,270 --> 00:32:38,790
unfortunately for them and for us the

696
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:41,280
melanin stopped there ultraviolet light

697
00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:43,980
cutting to from getting in and authoring

698
00:32:49,580 --> 00:32:46,800
us so it took them a long long time

699
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:49,590
before they could do this and that only

700
00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:52,770
happened when an Al be annoyed type of

701
00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:55,590
human being who didn't have the melanin

702
00:33:00,380 --> 00:32:58,440
protecting it in the center allowed them

703
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:00,390
in and then they started to construct

704
00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:04,610
from that individual different types of

705
00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:07,470
humanity and this I think we have to be

706
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:09,780
made aware of they are constructing a

707
00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:12,450
humanity that they want to take away

708
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:15,240
from this planet for their own uses and

709
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:17,910
I'm talking now machines so that's a

710
00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:20,580
threat I want to warn the world about if

711
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:23,900
right we have a big deal here all of us

712
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:27,570
do they could deconstruct our melanin

713
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:31,260
and our chromosomes and so make whatever

714
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:34,410
they want or bear kind in their fashion

715
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:37,050
and it will be done to us not by living

716
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:40,010
things but by machines these kind and

717
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:43,200
great what we're speaking about this off

718
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:46,320
the air and this sounds like real life

719
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:49,050
spider-man is what they are constructing

720
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:51,210
just like you see dr. hope that they

721
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:52,740
take you mouth and then they turn to

722
00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:55,320
mention machines and I will share this

723
00:34:01,340 --> 00:33:58,380
story with everybody now because I think

724
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:01,350
it's really important we mentioned we've

725
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:03,230
mentioned number of times on the air

726
00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:04,770
david felides

727
00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:07,080
and the incredible police work that he

728
00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:10,500
has done we really admire him he has

729
00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:12,360
done and you talk about following a

730
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:14,100
logical pattern Nigel and certainly

731
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:16,050
David has done that and he has

732
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:18,810
investigated all of these disappearances

733
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:20,070
throughout the United States and

734
00:34:24,169 --> 00:34:21,960
throughout the world star

735
00:34:26,329 --> 00:34:24,179
within national parks where these people

736
00:34:28,220 --> 00:34:26,339
have just gone missing and sometimes

737
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:28,230
they find a body but no cause of death

738
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:31,440
and sometimes they don't find the body

739
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:35,609
so indeed what happened was george lugo

740
00:34:42,109 --> 00:34:39,240
who's a good friend of PK's we all got

741
00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:42,119
together to work on something called the

742
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:44,820
american skull experiment which meant

743
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:47,490
that we would try to contact the beings

744
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:49,320
that are around us the beings that work

745
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:51,179
with us on the other side and from other

746
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:53,790
dimensions and we would go looking for

747
00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:56,639
some of these missing people that David

748
00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,339
had identified so we looked at three of

749
00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:02,400
them and what we found was so horrific

750
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:04,440
that I didn't even want to report it on

751
00:35:07,339 --> 00:35:06,810
the air remember PKI said I'm not so

752
00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:07,349
sure

753
00:35:12,609 --> 00:35:09,540
scary tell people what we saw because it

754
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:12,619
was something I struggled with and had

755
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:15,780
sleepless nights over one of the men

756
00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:18,420
that we searched for the body had been

757
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:20,940
found he was a doctor

758
00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:25,200
and he was an expert hiker they found

759
00:35:30,050 --> 00:35:27,750
him in a sod place which is one of the

760
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:30,060
things that David identifies is in his

761
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:32,910
books something to look for somewhere

762
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:35,640
where he shouldn't have been he was dead

763
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:37,770
and they couldn't really determine the

764
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:38,760
cause of death

765
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:42,450
when we went in to look at this what we

766
00:35:47,859 --> 00:35:45,089
saw was exactly what you described in

767
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:47,869
the book these beings took his soul

768
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,180
dumped the body they were after his soul

769
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:54,240
that's why there was no cause of death

770
00:35:59,359 --> 00:35:57,089
that could be actually determined they

771
00:36:01,220 --> 00:35:59,369
always say something like hypothermia or

772
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:01,230
head injury but that really wasn't the

773
00:36:06,530 --> 00:36:03,089
cause of death the cause of death was

774
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:06,540
they took the soul now the other person

775
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:09,440
that we went looking for wasn't a man

776
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:11,730
who had gone missing from a bar that

777
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:14,700
nobody saw any videotape of him leaving

778
00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:17,609
going anywhere he was gone and we found

779
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:21,540
him located in like a huge warehouse and

780
00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:24,270
what we saw was awful we saw his feet

781
00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:27,000
kind of implanted into the floor of this

782
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:29,430
building he was hooked up to all kinds

783
00:36:34,579 --> 00:36:32,160
of machinery this looked to us exactly

784
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:34,589
what you described as the beginning of

785
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:35,670
creating cyber

786
00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:39,960
or using a human being to fuel whatever

787
00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:41,430
in the world they were doing there again

788
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:43,800
this was way beyond any reference point

789
00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:47,210
we had ever seen before it was horrific

790
00:36:53,630 --> 00:36:50,820
he was aware that we were looking at him

791
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,640
he was aware that we wanted to help him

792
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,920
now there was a third person that went

793
00:37:00,110 --> 00:36:58,320
missing her name is Stacey Ann and what

794
00:37:02,090 --> 00:37:00,120
we found with her was they had nothing

795
00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:02,100
to do with any of this it was something

796
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:04,340
completely different she is still alive

797
00:37:09,410 --> 00:37:07,530
but she is not on the planet so those

798
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:09,420
are the things that we found but that's

799
00:37:14,090 --> 00:37:12,480
why when I saw when we saw your book or

800
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:14,100
like we got to get Nigel on the air

801
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:16,680
because we know what you're identifying

802
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:19,380
is in fact the case and we think that it

803
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:22,470
has a lot to do with these people who go

804
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:24,180
missing in our national parks and

805
00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:29,130
elsewhere connection there that's

806
00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:31,950
extremely useful Patricia and pigtail if

807
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:33,960
I may say so and it's wonderful

808
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:36,300
invaluable worth pointing to what this

809
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:38,700
whole phenomenon might well actually be

810
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:41,700
the reason I think they defined this you

811
00:37:45,590 --> 00:37:44,190
defined it as a soul why first have to

812
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:45,600
you know in my terms

813
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:48,090
try to talk about it so what it might be

814
00:37:53,420 --> 00:37:51,090
but I believe a soul is that connecting

815
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:53,430
mechanism that brings us back to life

816
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,610
and you know the ancient people of India

817
00:38:00,830 --> 00:37:58,500
and people places like that have

818
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:00,840
believed in reincarnation in fact every

819
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:03,570
religion at one point in time all of

820
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:05,130
them believed in reincarnation

821
00:38:09,590 --> 00:38:07,020
until somebody found in the Christian

822
00:38:12,890 --> 00:38:09,600
ethic that one of the Holy Roman Emperor

823
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,900
Justin's wife Theodora was told that she

824
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:14,880
was a witch in her past life and she got

825
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:16,890
her husband it was in charge of the

826
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:19,650
Christian ethic to scrub all references

827
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:22,050
to reincarnation but almost every

828
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:23,610
release in fact every religion is

829
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:25,830
catalogued as at once upon time saying

830
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,770
we come back in two subsequent bodies we

831
00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:30,720
live and we go and come back now the

832
00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:33,150
soul therefore I believe is the

833
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:35,150
mechanism that can travel the entire

834
00:38:42,110 --> 00:38:38,880
universe instantly and go to where it

835
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:42,120
needs to go anywhere and all of us have

836
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:44,910
this one this propensity I now come to

837
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:47,250
believe remember I'm a scientist talking

838
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:49,410
about this and it's been a dream

839
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:51,840
because me to actually get my head round

840
00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:54,480
this that I finally now have a tangible

841
00:39:00,650 --> 00:38:57,630
sequence that can actually point this in

842
00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:00,660
a science way with quantum mechanics and

843
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:03,240
quantum all kinds of Quantum's if you

844
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,710
see what I mean I won't go into it

845
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:06,480
because it's complex right and so yes

846
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:09,330
and you take a long time anyway but the

847
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:11,460
point is that it does point to a

848
00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:14,250
marvelous capacity we have as living

849
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:17,580
beings to be able to return and carry on

850
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:21,810
but these machine types have discovered

851
00:39:27,230 --> 00:39:24,900
that if they could append to this they

852
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,240
too could do this otherwise those

853
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:29,520
machines they will break up in the

854
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:31,650
universe like everything does rot

855
00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:34,230
everything goes one way you know PK why

856
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,880
doesn't it go the other way people have

857
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:37,680
to ask it's called the second law of

858
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:39,690
thermodynamics it breaks everything down

859
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:42,810
it rots everything and I think that

860
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:45,270
these things will just break down in

861
00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:47,910
time so what they have found is if they

862
00:40:02,870 --> 00:39:51,780
find human beings that can carry on they

863
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,880
can then carry on - makes sense I mean

864
00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:04,560
it sounds like these greys are finite

865
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:06,270
and so they're they're looking to us to

866
00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:25,850
but I tell you as we've talked before

867
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:28,260
all three of us about this this may be

868
00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:30,990
one of the reasons if not the reason

869
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,300
that the government does not want to

870
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:35,520
divulge information because how would

871
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:38,610
you feel if they knew that you were

872
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,420
being used for parts by these crazies I

873
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:43,920
mean we wouldn't take it all that well

874
00:40:48,830 --> 00:40:46,710
but I mean certainly we understand ships

875
00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:48,840
in the sky so many people have seen them

876
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:51,270
and we know people have been abducted

877
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:54,210
and we believe them so we've kind of got

878
00:41:01,340 --> 00:40:57,930
past all that but this is a whole new

879
00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:01,350
psychological thriller aspect of the

880
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:03,000
abduction phenomenon

881
00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:04,530
it takes it to an entirely different

882
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:09,030
level it's just an idea Patricia I want

883
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:11,730
to tell you I have to look at this as

884
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:14,130
well as dispassionately as I can even

885
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:15,810
though I find it the most plausible

886
00:41:20,570 --> 00:41:18,300
reason why these things might be here

887
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:20,580
and bothering with our small planet and

888
00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:23,190
it's smaller propensity shall we say

889
00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:26,190
over 180 years of Technology what are

890
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:28,230
they bothering they're bothering because

891
00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:30,510
we have this commodity of life and

892
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,480
return in the universe and anything that

893
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,760
lives with the capacity of a human being

894
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:37,680
to store knowledge they are trying to

895
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:39,570
improve that capacity so that they

896
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:42,260
themselves can fit in with their

897
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:44,820
thousand-year-old knowledge perhaps I'm

898
00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:47,070
talking about machines now machines

899
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:49,830
attending to living beings now how they

900
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:51,960
do this I explained in my third book are

901
00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:54,570
they might do this I must say like

902
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:56,820
nobody can definitively say this and I

903
00:42:01,310 --> 00:41:58,890
won't claim anything like that but it's

904
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:01,320
a nice set of ideas that I'm hoping to

905
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,810
throw to the world and then the clever

906
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:05,760
of people perhaps then they can come in

907
00:42:10,610 --> 00:42:08,010
and give us a much more well-informed

908
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:10,620
thesis about how this might be done and

909
00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:14,310
that's really the thing you know the

910
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:14,760
same way

911
00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:16,830
yes there's a question for you Nigel

912
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:18,660
because this is supposed to be the

913
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:22,380
planet of free will so how are they

914
00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:25,380
taking over our will to do what they do

915
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,630
point about it is when you are that's a

916
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:29,520
very good point why did the great

917
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:32,220
teachers come and say we have to do this

918
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:34,530
and do this and do this I think it was

919
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:36,660
to prepare to get us away from the reach

920
00:42:42,890 --> 00:42:39,390
of these things and if we have qualities

921
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:42,900
in such a way that we move this power of

922
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:46,110
life and death and our soul into an area

923
00:42:50,660 --> 00:42:48,390
where they can't reach us at death then

924
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:50,670
we will get away from them and it won't

925
00:42:55,250 --> 00:42:52,710
happen to us and I think what we call

926
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:55,260
good and bad is quite simply what this

927
00:42:59,020 --> 00:42:57,030
great teachers or religious teachers are

928
00:43:03,020 --> 00:42:59,030
trying to tell us with a momentum

929
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:03,030
towards these things or indeed away from

930
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:05,160
them and if you get away from them you

931
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:08,010
will preserve your ancestral propensity

932
00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:10,650
to come back and be a human and have

933
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:12,270
your freedom and you put your finger on

934
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:15,300
it when you use the action free will we

935
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:15,650
will

936
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:23,150
from us

937
00:43:29,410 --> 00:43:27,290
they will yeah are you in a way that

938
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:29,420
they do it I'll tell you a way they do

939
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:31,450
it that I found out about just recently

940
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:35,570
they have the capacity to walk into our

941
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:39,260
dreams our dream state and that's when

942
00:43:45,220 --> 00:43:42,800
they ask us a question if they can take

943
00:43:47,530 --> 00:43:45,230
us now because we're in a dream state

944
00:43:50,530 --> 00:43:47,540
because a lot of people do not have

945
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:50,540
charge over their dream state they may

946
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:52,850
just give permission and I've seen this

947
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,290
happen and it almost happened to me

948
00:43:59,350 --> 00:43:56,720
until I caught on to what was really

949
00:44:02,560 --> 00:43:59,360
asking me this question and I said no

950
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:02,570
you can't but had I not had the

951
00:44:06,910 --> 00:44:05,210
experience as a dream analyst and

952
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:06,920
someone who works with their dreams a

953
00:44:13,180 --> 00:44:09,710
lot I wouldn't have recognized this trap

954
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:13,190
so I do see that they have that capacity

955
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:14,810
they don't have no problem using it

956
00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:18,050
against us the central thing we have all

957
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:20,360
of us is the ability to know ourselves

958
00:44:26,290 --> 00:44:23,570
and that means free will and so if we do

959
00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:26,300
not have that power that's the central

960
00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:28,820
power nothing can actually overrule that

961
00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:30,830
the Christian teacher for instance had

962
00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:32,780
to tell his father so to speak

963
00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:39,590
yes thy will be done not mine if you are

964
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:41,480
a Christian you believe in a religion or

965
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:44,090
whatever and that if that then expounds

966
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:46,790
that ethic I believe you know that in

967
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:49,910
any ethic whether any religion the free

968
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:51,950
will of a single human being is the most

969
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:54,710
paramount right of all and if you give

970
00:44:59,950 --> 00:44:57,470
that up not even realizing that you are

971
00:45:03,370 --> 00:44:59,960
then something else can come in there's

972
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:03,380
some switch there that allows the entry

973
00:45:10,810 --> 00:45:07,010
and occupation of someone dependent on

974
00:45:13,090 --> 00:45:10,820
what you Patricia call freewill yes yes

975
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:13,100
I mean this is why it's so important

976
00:45:18,340 --> 00:45:15,920
this is a great experiment for us to

977
00:45:22,210 --> 00:45:18,350
embrace our own consciousness our own

978
00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:22,220
expansion again knowing yourself is so

979
00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:24,320
important being able to use the tools

980
00:45:29,470 --> 00:45:28,070
that you have to determine you know what

981
00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:29,480
you want for yourself and

982
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:32,500
not given to the impulses of these alien

983
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,090
greys who have a totally different

984
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:37,040
agenda and don't care about you as you

985
00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:39,800
mentioned Nigel they have no morals

986
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:43,160
they have no no carnal moral compass

987
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:45,230
yeah they're just gonna do what their

988
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:47,119
task requires and they don't care about

989
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:55,730
how we feel don't you find that

990
00:45:59,620 --> 00:45:57,170
terrifying that here is something

991
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,630
incidentally acting on a program that's

992
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:01,760
not doing it to be wicked but just doing

993
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:06,440
it because it's following a program are

994
00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:09,290
scary because when you don't feel it you

995
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:11,780
can't really think you put yourself in

996
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:15,410
another space I'll be in Brazil what's

997
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:17,210
left I think you make some wonderful

998
00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:19,670
breakthroughs if I may say so and long

999
00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:26,990
may that continue this is from silent

1000
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:29,720
whisper did these greys come here with

1001
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:32,570
an agenda or did they develop some ideas

1002
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:35,930
once they found us once you get there

1003
00:46:42,130 --> 00:46:38,090
what see when you make anything

1004
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:42,140
artificial don't give it the license to

1005
00:46:47,170 --> 00:46:45,440
protect itself at any cost if you make

1006
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:47,180
something to sell we say our power

1007
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:48,770
stations have to be looked after by

1008
00:46:52,450 --> 00:46:50,630
robots in the future we make super

1009
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:52,460
robots and we tell the room but robots

1010
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:54,770
look after yourself so you can look

1011
00:47:01,240 --> 00:46:56,510
after our power station so you can look

1012
00:47:03,730 --> 00:47:01,250
after all because then take that on and

1013
00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:03,740
then see the person who created them to

1014
00:47:08,410 --> 00:47:05,990
be the biggest danger to them and take

1015
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:08,420
that person out and so you know you

1016
00:47:13,690 --> 00:47:10,760
unless you write the program very

1017
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:13,700
carefully you can take yourself out by

1018
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:16,010
thinking you've got a bonus making these

1019
00:47:21,609 --> 00:47:18,950
things to help you and that's called the

1020
00:47:24,070 --> 00:47:21,619
paradox the alien paradox I've written

1021
00:47:26,740 --> 00:47:24,080
it out in my book as simply as I can but

1022
00:47:30,990 --> 00:47:26,750
I tell you what if I was a great

1023
00:47:34,180 --> 00:47:31,000
advanced nation I would never create a

1024
00:47:40,510 --> 00:47:34,190
artificial intelligent robot it is

1025
00:47:42,730 --> 00:47:40,520
deadly they can no question yeah no

1026
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:42,740
question about that now here's another

1027
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,510
another person from the chat room this

1028
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:46,880
is Henry oh and Henry's asking should we

1029
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:48,770
interpret this as a spiritual awakening

1030
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,000
for us my opinion is that yeah I would

1031
00:48:00,430 --> 00:47:58,400
say to you that that spiritual opening

1032
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:00,440
is the most important thing that every

1033
00:48:05,980 --> 00:48:03,290
single human being can actually have and

1034
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:05,990
I'm not preaching here please understand

1035
00:48:14,170 --> 00:48:08,710
no matter who you are you have that

1036
00:48:16,780 --> 00:48:14,180
wonderful facility to say no yes exactly

1037
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:16,790
you can say no to these things and they

1038
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:18,650
they have to get away from you and

1039
00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:20,210
that's what I found out that evening

1040
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:21,830
that I had that dream when they were

1041
00:48:24,490 --> 00:48:22,609
trying to trick me

1042
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:24,500
it's like if this is happening to me as

1043
00:48:32,260 --> 00:48:30,290
having to lots of people this way I must

1044
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:32,270
make this point please the grace I don't

1045
00:48:36,849 --> 00:48:33,770
believe are a spiritual awakening

1046
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,859
themselves they are just a utility we

1047
00:48:43,150 --> 00:48:38,960
must have the spiritual awakening that

1048
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:43,160
says don't make great type Android super

1049
00:48:55,150 --> 00:48:52,120
unite all about another thing and this

1050
00:48:57,150 --> 00:48:55,160
is the men in black as we've heard a lot

1051
00:49:00,849 --> 00:48:57,160
of stories about the men in black also

1052
00:49:02,650 --> 00:49:00,859
being robotic or some type of Android

1053
00:49:04,540 --> 00:49:02,660
what do you think about that have you

1054
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:04,550
considered what they are you heard

1055
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:06,950
stories about them I think it's very

1056
00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:09,050
naive and he points the fact that these

1057
00:49:15,790 --> 00:49:13,190
gray androids are living in the past so

1058
00:49:19,329 --> 00:49:15,800
they create caricatures that can be

1059
00:49:21,460 --> 00:49:19,339
spotted by everyone as ludicrous things

1060
00:49:24,250 --> 00:49:21,470
that went out with forties films

1061
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:24,260
gangster films so they make these things

1062
00:49:29,710 --> 00:49:27,140
because they thought that these things

1063
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:29,720
had influence in our capacities on the

1064
00:49:33,940 --> 00:49:31,970
earth maybe Hollywood is responsible I

1065
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:33,950
don't we need to sound trite and

1066
00:49:38,050 --> 00:49:36,410
frivolous but it makes it's crazy really

1067
00:49:40,690 --> 00:49:38,060
these things that they make that's

1068
00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:40,700
supposed to go in and do their functions

1069
00:49:46,359 --> 00:49:43,160
and so forth maybe they think these

1070
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:46,369
androids create human beings or pseudo

1071
00:49:51,099 --> 00:49:48,230
humans out of the people that have

1072
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:51,109
kidnapped or whatever taken over and

1073
00:50:03,430 --> 00:49:53,359
then they make them into facts similes

1074
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,940
[Music]

1075
00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:15,029
[Laughter]

1076
00:50:21,969 --> 00:50:19,630
we also have reports many recently right

1077
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:21,979
it started in the 90s of black eyed

1078
00:50:26,380 --> 00:50:24,650
children again another what are these

1079
00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:26,390
things do you have any as this any

1080
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:31,900
connect there's a halfway house types in

1081
00:50:41,409 --> 00:50:38,529
that makes sense

1082
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:41,419
yeah does I don't know why it fits but

1083
00:50:46,989 --> 00:50:46,249
it fits yeah it does huh oh that's

1084
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:46,999
brilliant

1085
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:51,140
Nigel we like that well except that one

1086
00:50:59,229 --> 00:50:56,209
Nigel that is one piece of the puzzle

1087
00:51:02,109 --> 00:50:59,239
that we now have which we appreciate yes

1088
00:51:03,459 --> 00:51:02,119
I mean now again let's go back to David

1089
00:51:05,289 --> 00:51:03,469
Jacobs for a minute because he says

1090
00:51:07,089 --> 00:51:05,299
we're screwed we can't stop these things

1091
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:07,099
they're already here they're already

1092
00:51:12,819 --> 00:51:09,650
living among us they've got their agenda

1093
00:51:15,219 --> 00:51:12,829
and they've got away you know presenting

1094
00:51:18,789 --> 00:51:15,229
this that enough people won't believe it

1095
00:51:20,919 --> 00:51:18,799
until it's way too late yeah well keep

1096
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:20,929
your sweeping my advice to my children

1097
00:51:25,509 --> 00:51:23,119
and this is all I can do is tell my own

1098
00:51:27,669 --> 00:51:25,519
children much of my advice um is keep

1099
00:51:30,189 --> 00:51:27,679
your sweetness and goodness and goodwill

1100
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:30,199
together and nothing will ever take your

1101
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:38,329
soul away yes that's very good

1102
00:51:46,959 --> 00:51:44,089
a lot of candy to sweep me up I will I

1103
00:51:56,589 --> 00:51:46,969
will sacrifice that and I will you know

1104
00:51:57,069 --> 00:51:56,599
I will definitely eat more candy that's

1105
00:52:00,880 --> 00:51:57,079
right

1106
00:52:03,459 --> 00:52:00,890
here's another quick question so before

1107
00:52:06,009 --> 00:52:03,469
we go to break again and this is where

1108
00:52:07,630 --> 00:52:06,019
to go it's up here we love you people in

1109
00:52:09,099 --> 00:52:07,640
the chatroom thank you so much for

1110
00:52:10,750 --> 00:52:09,109
joining the show again if you want to

1111
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:10,760
send a question over it's

1112
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:13,820
I are in chat calm as I are anime chat

1113
00:52:18,070 --> 00:52:16,400
calm how long do you believe these

1114
00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:18,080
beings have been visiting Earth's that

1115
00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:21,880
questions from Chris yeah well actually

1116
00:52:27,940 --> 00:52:25,460
in a sense if they have been visiting

1117
00:52:29,860 --> 00:52:27,950
for ten years or for one month if

1118
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:29,870
they're superior to us and can control

1119
00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:32,570
us then the time they've been here might

1120
00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:35,750
account as history shows us from Egypt

1121
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:38,150
all the civilizations in the past they

1122
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:40,250
may well have been creating our species

1123
00:52:45,820 --> 00:52:43,610
to suit a model they want for many many

1124
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:45,830
hundreds of thousands of years but the

1125
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:47,930
point about it is that something there

1126
00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:50,930
is about us that doesn't let them take

1127
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:54,350
the whole lot of us out and we know we

1128
00:52:59,830 --> 00:52:56,450
have to find those resistance points

1129
00:53:02,440 --> 00:52:59,840
work on them to stop this whole process

1130
00:53:06,250 --> 00:53:02,450
once and for all so we can find that

1131
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:06,260
last computerized anomaly we call a gray

1132
00:53:12,910 --> 00:53:08,930
or whatever it is and stop it dead and

1133
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:12,920
save the natural living power of our

1134
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:15,110
species of human beings and without

1135
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:20,000
sounding too much like a preacher my

1136
00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:21,770
family would be laughing hearing this

1137
00:53:33,010 --> 00:53:26,870
about me I really believe this just keep

1138
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:33,020
the young ones sweet and they well but

1139
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:34,310
we're gonna have to take another very

1140
00:53:39,340 --> 00:53:36,170
short commercial break and come back

1141
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:39,350
again and talk more about this gray

1142
00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:42,710
aliens and the harvesting of souls by

1143
00:53:48,910 --> 00:53:47,390
Nigel Turner here's the book and again

1144
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:48,920
we think this is really going on

1145
00:53:53,710 --> 00:53:51,050
everybody we got a good book get our

1146
00:53:57,220 --> 00:53:53,720
consciousness expanded we have to find

1147
00:53:58,810 --> 00:53:57,230
out what are the triggers here and again

1148
00:54:00,460 --> 00:53:58,820
we'll be right back where you're

1149
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:00,470
listening to Supernatural girls radio

1150
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:02,570
everybody welcome back everyone to

1151
00:54:07,810 --> 00:54:04,850
supernatural girls radio it is an

1152
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:07,820
exciting night tonight oh that is your

1153
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:10,850
host Patricia Baker I am here with my

1154
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:13,310
co-host very exciting herself

1155
00:54:17,650 --> 00:54:15,710
Patricia Kirkman PK thank you and our

1156
00:54:21,250 --> 00:54:17,660
exciting guest who is keeping us on the

1157
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:21,260
edge of our seat here Nyjah Turner he's

1158
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:24,930
talking about gray aliens and there

1159
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:27,930
Genda here their agenda what are they

1160
00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:30,690
doing here he is exposing this so

1161
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:33,990
everybody can get very aware of what's

1162
00:54:40,339 --> 00:54:37,490
coming up and how to deal with it so

1163
00:54:42,410 --> 00:54:40,349
Nigel what else can you share with us

1164
00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:42,420
about this because we were asking all

1165
00:54:47,299 --> 00:54:44,520
these questions they getting what else

1166
00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:47,309
can you tell us yeah well just can you

1167
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:49,079
just imagine if I was a great general

1168
00:54:54,799 --> 00:54:52,530
what would I do if I wanted a captive

1169
00:55:00,890 --> 00:54:54,809
audience I would give them all my little

1170
00:55:03,140 --> 00:55:00,900
trinkets and technology in my toys and

1171
00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:03,150
we've got the whole world I was in South

1172
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:06,270
Africa and the South Africans in in the

1173
00:55:09,770 --> 00:55:07,890
villages of surveys and so on almost

1174
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:09,780
every one of them had a mobile phone

1175
00:55:18,620 --> 00:55:17,130
with the camera now imagine if I was a

1176
00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:18,630
great general I wanted to capture the

1177
00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:20,790
human population I'd give them my

1178
00:55:26,270 --> 00:55:23,190
technology I would give them the trinket

1179
00:55:33,579 --> 00:55:26,280
and what would that do it was isolate us

1180
00:55:39,470 --> 00:55:37,640
so what is that what what they think is

1181
00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:39,480
a wonderful bonus when they give you all

1182
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:41,430
these things and the latest kind of

1183
00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:44,609
iPhone or whatever that sounds to me and

1184
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,020
looks me right in sidious gift really if

1185
00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:51,599
it's used for the benefit of human

1186
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:52,920
beings and we can command it

1187
00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:55,770
Patricia pk that would be wonderful but

1188
00:56:02,299 --> 00:55:59,220
do you know it tends not to do that and

1189
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:02,309
so if you reverse the thing if you

1190
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:03,510
become it's slave

1191
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,250
now all these things have been said this

1192
00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:07,380
is not new and that's what I believe and

1193
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:09,960
I'm a small family point of view because

1194
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:14,130
in the end I'm also a bird dad and mom

1195
00:56:18,410 --> 00:56:15,930
and we've got the children and we all

1196
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,420
are family people and so on in the end

1197
00:56:23,539 --> 00:56:20,640
we have to think about this humanity of

1198
00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:23,549
us and to me whatever I write about grey

1199
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:25,470
aliens or whatever they might be and

1200
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:27,569
speculate about it I tried to be as

1201
00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:29,760
informed as I can but I am NOT here to

1202
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,940
preach I just look at it from a dad's

1203
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:35,280
point-of-view and I say these things you

1204
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:37,290
from that point of view really and we

1205
00:56:41,269 --> 00:56:38,609
ought not

1206
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:41,279
be suddenly clouded by all this stuff

1207
00:56:46,970 --> 00:56:43,980
being thrown at us every day so that we

1208
00:56:49,069 --> 00:56:46,980
lose that simple sense of each other as

1209
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,079
human beings and I think that's what the

1210
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:50,640
great teachers were trying to say to us

1211
00:56:56,509 --> 00:56:52,920
in the past wherever they came from

1212
00:56:59,539 --> 00:56:56,519
be careful you don't lose custody of

1213
00:57:02,029 --> 00:56:59,549
your own sense of each other if that

1214
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:02,039
ever happens then you don't need grey

1215
00:57:08,420 --> 00:57:04,650
aliens you don't need row boys you're

1216
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:08,430
gone anyway anything is the truth it

1217
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:11,970
really is Nigel very well said you watch

1218
00:57:15,049 --> 00:57:13,529
people walking down the street they're

1219
00:57:17,059 --> 00:57:15,059
not looking at anything around them

1220
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:17,069
they're looking at their hands well

1221
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:19,650
without moans just cell phones people go

1222
00:57:23,269 --> 00:57:21,569
out to dinner they sit across from one

1223
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:23,279
another they don't even speak to each

1224
00:57:29,809 --> 00:57:27,690
other yeah yeah I tell you a little

1225
00:57:31,309 --> 00:57:29,819
story a friend of mine was in Italy

1226
00:57:33,229 --> 00:57:31,319
recently it's quite an anecdote that

1227
00:57:35,059 --> 00:57:33,239
brings us out and they went into this

1228
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:35,069
church the service was going on and they

1229
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,849
were walking along some Christian

1230
00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:39,839
edifice it was and they were looking

1231
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,630
into this church and as they walked in

1232
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:44,880
this saw your audience and all of them

1233
00:57:49,789 --> 00:57:47,369
seemed to be bent over kneeling kneeling

1234
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:49,799
down devotionally and they don't that's

1235
00:57:56,989 --> 00:57:54,089
lovely to see a young audience all bent

1236
00:57:59,509 --> 00:57:56,999
over concentrating on the service nobody

1237
00:58:01,640 --> 00:57:59,519
will believe how devotional and devoted

1238
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:01,650
this a scene is they walked a little

1239
00:58:19,150 --> 00:58:03,720
further up and they could see the

1240
00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:28,880
tell me the story of course it's awful I

1241
00:58:34,999 --> 00:58:32,609
mean I thought it was funny because the

1242
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,009
fact that she expected to be in this

1243
00:58:44,749 --> 00:58:36,480
world wait to be anything different

1244
00:58:48,410 --> 00:58:44,759
surprised me really shocked about it I

1245
00:58:50,269 --> 00:58:48,420
was indeed that all of them was a young

1246
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:50,279
audience that's why she was so impressed

1247
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:00,530
it's really shame but exactly what PK

1248
00:59:05,870 --> 00:59:02,310
was saying is happening every day and

1249
00:59:08,510 --> 00:59:05,880
and now I hear Apple is trying to find

1250
00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:08,520
ways to teach children not to be

1251
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:10,680
addicted to their phones which would be

1252
00:59:15,350 --> 00:59:12,510
interesting thing how they accomplish

1253
00:59:17,330 --> 00:59:15,360
this but in the meantime we have much

1254
00:59:20,660 --> 00:59:17,340
bigger things to be concerned about

1255
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:20,670
we've as we move forward as the human

1256
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:23,910
race because we are under siege and it's

1257
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:27,000
a secret situation and anything that

1258
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:30,630
secret is doubly dangerous right so you

1259
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:32,010
know I wonder I mean

1260
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:34,310
Nigel what's your opinion about

1261
00:59:38,930 --> 00:59:36,570
disclosure do you think that our

1262
00:59:41,350 --> 00:59:38,940
governments collectively are going to

1263
00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:41,360
come clean on this what's your thought I

1264
00:59:46,580 --> 00:59:44,520
think the only thing that can actually

1265
00:59:48,350 --> 00:59:46,590
make sure of it Patricia I think this is

1266
00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:48,360
a simple common sense I think most

1267
00:59:52,610 --> 00:59:49,740
people will probably if they think about

1268
00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:52,620
it agree if you don't out of your own

1269
00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:54,510
terms of reference as an individual

1270
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:56,670
shout as much as you can that's

1271
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:58,770
something that you know it's patently

1272
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:01,680
wrong then nothing will be done by

1273
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:03,960
governments governments only follow the

1274
01:00:07,820 --> 01:00:06,330
party line so to speak and usually

1275
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:07,830
they're power-hungry to be cynical

1276
01:00:11,810 --> 01:00:10,170
they're power-hungry people and I don't

1277
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:11,820
think I've ever seen the government

1278
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:13,770
around the world wherever that you've

1279
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,770
found truly altruistic people serving

1280
01:00:21,020 --> 01:00:18,960
everybody so we have to therefore

1281
01:00:23,570 --> 01:00:21,030
individually take it into our own hands

1282
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:23,580
to be privately don't go out and cause

1283
01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:25,650
all kinds of ructions and whatever it is

1284
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:29,070
and then riots or whatever but the firm

1285
01:00:33,770 --> 01:00:31,290
within what you believe and hope that

1286
01:00:36,110 --> 01:00:33,780
your friends will join in and if they

1287
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:36,120
are working to secret things that are

1288
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:38,310
being done against the interests of

1289
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,250
humanity and surely their humanity knows

1290
01:00:46,460 --> 01:00:43,680
that they say first person they look at

1291
01:00:48,620 --> 01:00:46,470
most of all and that is our species if

1292
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:48,630
they take away our species we are all

1293
01:00:55,070 --> 01:00:52,890
gone too so to me as a writer when I sit

1294
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:55,080
and write these things down I'll have to

1295
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:56,850
look at them and understand that my

1296
01:01:00,800 --> 01:00:58,770
children will read that too and as a

1297
01:01:04,070 --> 01:01:00,810
father I have to be responsible to them

1298
01:01:06,110 --> 01:01:04,080
so my first person if you like that I

1299
01:01:08,450 --> 01:01:06,120
look to is what will a dad

1300
01:01:09,950 --> 01:01:08,460
say to children really basically and I

1301
01:01:13,180 --> 01:01:09,960
take that point of view with the writer

1302
01:01:16,670 --> 01:01:13,190
yeah I agree I agree now here's a really

1303
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:16,680
really interesting question and this is

1304
01:01:21,020 --> 01:01:19,290
from I not probably not going to

1305
01:01:24,770 --> 01:01:21,030
pronounce this correctly Rhian Gresham

1306
01:01:26,690 --> 01:01:24,780
I'm curious to know why these aliens

1307
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:26,700
have been reported to create hybrid

1308
01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:29,850
children with their abductors what is

1309
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:31,950
the genetic material that they are

1310
01:01:39,050 --> 01:01:34,410
mixing our DNA with since they are

1311
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:39,060
robots they hate melanin melanin stops

1312
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:42,330
their actual ultraviolet light pens from

1313
01:01:48,350 --> 01:01:45,210
cutting into our DNA and melanin is

1314
01:01:51,860 --> 01:01:48,360
something is a magical component which

1315
01:01:53,660 --> 01:01:51,870
if you have a good covering off you have

1316
01:01:57,700 --> 01:01:53,670
an advantage they tend to leave you

1317
01:02:00,140 --> 01:01:57,710
alone but if they can get through that

1318
01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:00,150
melanin then they can alter you and

1319
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:02,550
you've got to be extremely careful that

1320
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:04,440
they might be aiming to do that

1321
01:02:08,180 --> 01:02:06,540
professor David Jacobs you know

1322
01:02:10,790 --> 01:02:08,190
interviewed a female abductor you

1323
01:02:13,460 --> 01:02:10,800
described how she was shown a hybrid

1324
01:02:15,980 --> 01:02:13,470
baby yeah you probably know and I too

1325
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:15,990
hold it and hug it and then Jacobs artha

1326
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:18,030
about the skin color of the baby does it

1327
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:20,130
have light skin or dark skin within a

1328
01:02:25,490 --> 01:02:22,530
Caucasian range her answer was fair

1329
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:25,500
quite fair I think it is very fair as a

1330
01:02:31,010 --> 01:02:28,130
matter of fact she said almost like no

1331
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:31,020
ultraviolet light for this guy this

1332
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:33,330
seems to be the norm for most of the

1333
01:02:38,180 --> 01:02:35,910
hybrid witnesses and it's epitomized in

1334
01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:38,190
the blonde blue-eyed Nordic type of

1335
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:39,900
aliens that are witnessed by many

1336
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:43,650
abductees so that's a warning for us it

1337
01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:45,630
really is that they're looking for this

1338
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:50,460
type of kind of DNA prospectus because

1339
01:03:00,290 --> 01:02:56,330
they've easily worked on their mixing

1340
01:03:03,620 --> 01:03:00,300
with the the women and men they've been

1341
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:03,630
abducting for breeding purposes this is

1342
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:05,610
stuff they're basically growing in a lab

1343
01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:09,420
and then introducing indeed I mean so

1344
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:11,160
it's interesting their own DNA

1345
01:03:15,530 --> 01:03:13,710
it is DNA that they're creating in a

1346
01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:15,540
laboratory somewhere and then mixing

1347
01:03:19,780 --> 01:03:18,540
that well that would make sense the only

1348
01:03:22,210 --> 01:03:19,790
thing that I could find

1349
01:03:24,580 --> 01:03:22,220
that's common practice with what these

1350
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,590
things are doing you know in my

1351
01:03:30,099 --> 01:03:27,200
researches that runs in a line straight

1352
01:03:32,290 --> 01:03:30,109
through Patricia is that incident in the

1353
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:32,300
last war it has been reported that

1354
01:03:37,450 --> 01:03:34,910
Hitler had an alien encounter in which

1355
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:37,460
he showed he was shown a blond blue-eyed

1356
01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:40,400
ideal that he later sought to emulate as

1357
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:44,030
Aryan purity and when he was asked when

1358
01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:46,310
he was asked about it he said I have

1359
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:50,500
seen the new man and he is cruel and

1360
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:53,810
intrepid now he formed his idealized

1361
01:04:03,580 --> 01:03:56,690
format based on it now that's not to say

1362
01:04:06,460 --> 01:04:03,590
that every thing these people come in

1363
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:06,470
there and they use this because this

1364
01:04:10,810 --> 01:04:09,770
facility's easier to be manipulated if

1365
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:10,820
you see what I mean with their

1366
01:04:16,090 --> 01:04:13,730
technology and maybe that's a weakness

1367
01:04:19,060 --> 01:04:16,100
all of us should rally around and

1368
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:19,070
protect this these types of people from

1369
01:04:25,180 --> 01:04:22,310
if we don't do that then maybe these

1370
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:25,190
guys will take them all away Oh in some

1371
01:04:29,050 --> 01:04:27,200
kind of way use them so I think the

1372
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:29,060
world ought to be warned about this is

1373
01:04:34,990 --> 01:04:32,000
what I'm saying because this comes up in

1374
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:35,000
research point after research point that

1375
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,100
I see so when you ask me what's the most

1376
01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:39,440
dangerous thing what could be the best

1377
01:04:44,310 --> 01:04:41,230
thing against all this I would say

1378
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:44,320
beware that there are certain biological

1379
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:47,330
insects that these things prefer to work

1380
01:04:55,780 --> 01:04:50,960
on to hybridize our species and allow

1381
01:04:59,560 --> 01:04:55,790
them to actually be like us but a

1382
01:05:01,960 --> 01:04:59,570
machine clock running their mind than

1383
01:05:04,180 --> 01:05:01,970
their consensus and that is something we

1384
01:05:07,030 --> 01:05:04,190
have to watch very carefully and if

1385
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:07,040
someone is guarding this in governments

1386
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:09,410
or whatever then we ought to be able to

1387
01:05:12,310 --> 01:05:11,510
expose that for the sake of all our

1388
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:12,320
humanity

1389
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:15,050
oh absolutely this is reaching critical

1390
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,570
mass now here's another question from

1391
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:19,760
silent whisper did they not care to

1392
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:22,480
preserve any history of their makers I

1393
01:05:26,650 --> 01:05:24,770
would think that all machines would be

1394
01:05:29,859 --> 01:05:26,660
programmed to archive data to keep an

1395
01:05:32,770 --> 01:05:29,869
historical record yeah yeah well you

1396
01:05:33,630 --> 01:05:32,780
have so many instances in past they've

1397
01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:33,640
been some very good

1398
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:36,710
programs that they show generally on a

1399
01:05:40,810 --> 01:05:38,510
channel we have an England called sky

1400
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:40,820
where they talk about ancient aliens and

1401
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:43,310
some very well presented theses there on

1402
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:46,930
how our history is based upon huge

1403
01:05:51,250 --> 01:05:49,430
technologies coming and turning

1404
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:51,260
primitive people into building things

1405
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:53,510
like pyramids and so on and even though

1406
01:05:59,140 --> 01:05:56,480
the common you know common invective of

1407
01:06:01,630 --> 01:05:59,150
scientists this can be done it doesn't

1408
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:01,640
hang hang together these things are

1409
01:06:05,710 --> 01:06:03,470
incredible where you can cut a stone

1410
01:06:09,220 --> 01:06:05,720
lake and put a razor blade through how

1411
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:09,230
can people you know all that way back be

1412
01:06:16,780 --> 01:06:14,090
able yeah have technology also Nigel in

1413
01:06:20,290 --> 01:06:16,790
this case is about the greys must know

1414
01:06:22,990 --> 01:06:20,300
who created them right not necessarily

1415
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:23,000
if you create a machine you don't tell

1416
01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:26,090
because of the machine look yeah you are

1417
01:06:32,620 --> 01:06:30,140
made by this fact nothing that they

1418
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:32,630
would do that they would just create an

1419
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:36,170
artificial quantum computer type program

1420
01:06:41,650 --> 01:06:38,690
which will run this particular thing and

1421
01:06:43,330 --> 01:06:41,660
get it to self-replicate itself when it

1422
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:43,340
runs up and the second law breaks

1423
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:45,920
everything down and you know the second

1424
01:06:50,530 --> 01:06:48,050
law of thermodynamics is the Great Satan

1425
01:06:54,220 --> 01:06:50,540
to me that's the thing that breaks

1426
01:06:56,170 --> 01:06:54,230
everything into pieces and we all have

1427
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:56,180
to watch that law because we all die

1428
01:07:04,120 --> 01:06:58,400
don't we in nothing goes the other way

1429
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:04,130
very straight but there's no opposite to

1430
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:06,650
the momentum of the universe all that

1431
01:07:11,590 --> 01:07:09,440
broke up what have you learned from the

1432
01:07:14,770 --> 01:07:11,600
abductees that you've spoken with about

1433
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:14,780
this oh sorry I didn't get the question

1434
01:07:19,180 --> 01:07:17,210
sorry can you repeat please what did you

1435
01:07:23,460 --> 01:07:19,190
learn from the abductees you've spoken

1436
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:23,470
with about what's helpful phenomena

1437
01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:25,610
first of all they're very frightened

1438
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:26,470
people

1439
01:07:31,060 --> 01:07:28,850
secondly they don't need to be

1440
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:31,070
frightened because often some I think

1441
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:33,290
more often than not the abductees that

1442
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:35,810
survived the abduction are rejects they

1443
01:07:40,990 --> 01:07:38,030
can't do anything to them so in fact

1444
01:07:44,260 --> 01:07:41,000
they have beaten the great but the one

1445
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:44,270
that you don't hear too much about they

1446
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:46,730
are the ones that you know it's too late

1447
01:07:51,099 --> 01:07:49,280
so if you hear about abductees I think

1448
01:07:54,070 --> 01:07:51,109
they have something extraordinary about

1449
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:54,080
them a lot of them that grace can't do

1450
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:56,690
anything with that's why they're here so

1451
01:08:00,910 --> 01:07:58,880
it's a good thing to survive them I

1452
01:08:03,849 --> 01:08:00,920
think from my own experience

1453
01:08:05,230 --> 01:08:03,859
ah I think the ones that are really in

1454
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:05,240
danger you never see because they've

1455
01:08:10,570 --> 01:08:09,050
already gone and you know yeah yeah and

1456
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:10,580
if you look at the number of people you

1457
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:12,170
can only do you can do this research on

1458
01:08:17,890 --> 01:08:14,210
the computer of course find out how many

1459
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:17,900
people a year go missing with no trace

1460
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:20,450
in the world it runs into hundreds of

1461
01:08:24,220 --> 01:08:21,130
millions

1462
01:08:25,690 --> 01:08:24,230
according to w-h-o figures it goes to

1463
01:08:30,329 --> 01:08:25,700
hundreds of three I mean a hundreds of

1464
01:08:32,979 --> 01:08:30,339
thousands I should say that yeah yes

1465
01:08:35,559 --> 01:08:32,989
simply going this thing every year and

1466
01:08:38,499 --> 01:08:35,569
we need to find an answer to this where

1467
01:08:40,900 --> 01:08:38,509
are they going what is happening all

1468
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:40,910
these things underground as many people

1469
01:08:52,599 --> 01:08:50,690
claim right but to share how are we

1470
01:08:55,090 --> 01:08:52,609
going to get the answers to this unless

1471
01:08:57,579 --> 01:08:55,100
people in the know in governments who

1472
01:09:00,249 --> 01:08:57,589
know that this is happening can come out

1473
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:00,259
somehow and tell the world and they have

1474
01:09:06,729 --> 01:09:04,489
to be very brave people that do this you

1475
01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:06,739
know we've met some of them we've

1476
01:09:11,740 --> 01:09:08,450
invited them on the show and you're

1477
01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:11,750
scared to death for good reason to come

1478
01:09:16,599 --> 01:09:13,430
out and talk about this they've told us

1479
01:09:18,190 --> 01:09:16,609
things privately and this is why both PK

1480
01:09:21,519 --> 01:09:18,200
and I are very knowledgeable about this

1481
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:21,529
because they have spoken and they know

1482
01:09:26,260 --> 01:09:22,970
they're knowledgeable people on the

1483
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:26,270
inside of this but to speak publicly is

1484
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,310
something they are scared to death to do

1485
01:09:35,610 --> 01:09:30,080
because they're scared not just for

1486
01:09:40,420 --> 01:09:38,170
you can imagine if they were why are you

1487
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:40,430
doing it there Nigel and I'd say to them

1488
01:09:52,420 --> 01:09:50,229
I'm not employed by anybody of

1489
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:52,430
independent means they can't do that to

1490
01:09:59,950 --> 01:09:55,760
me I'm very fortunate enough to have

1491
01:10:00,400 --> 01:09:59,960
such a wicked nature that my wife of 47

1492
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:00,410
years

1493
01:10:13,150 --> 01:10:10,880
actually admire some things I do here's

1494
01:10:16,030 --> 01:10:13,160
another question and this is from Galaxy

1495
01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:16,040
hopper has the government captured these

1496
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:19,540
grey droids and tried to hack them I

1497
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:22,910
have no idea to give you a definitive

1498
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:29,330
answer I don't know there's also been

1499
01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:34,010
rumors that they have a deal that they

1500
01:10:39,070 --> 01:10:36,590
made a contract with the governments of

1501
01:10:41,950 --> 01:10:39,080
the world to take a certain amount of

1502
01:10:43,570 --> 01:10:41,960
people and do with what they wanted so

1503
01:11:15,480 --> 01:10:43,580
there's been that rumor have you heard

1504
01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:15,490
about the truth checking where I live

1505
01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:27,220
there you go yeah again you know I think

1506
01:11:32,170 --> 01:11:29,420
it is our right to know I mean it's our

1507
01:11:35,410 --> 01:11:32,180
right to know and we need to embrace our

1508
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:35,420
history with these grays and whatever

1509
01:11:39,340 --> 01:11:37,970
other alien races are becoming here

1510
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:39,350
because we've heard there's a number of

1511
01:11:45,250 --> 01:11:43,280
them it's not just the greys right and

1512
01:11:47,530 --> 01:11:45,260
and the point is this whatever they

1513
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:47,540
might have in terms of contracts with a

1514
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:50,000
specific type of person or a specific

1515
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:52,610
specific designation of humanity or

1516
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:55,010
whatever whatever it is if you're a

1517
01:11:59,320 --> 01:11:56,960
machine who is going to send for that

1518
01:12:01,000 --> 01:11:59,330
contract what judge is going to sit in

1519
01:12:03,490 --> 01:12:01,010
charge of a machine in judgment of the

1520
01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:03,500
machine you can't so the problem is

1521
01:12:07,210 --> 01:12:05,510
there can't be contracts or whatever

1522
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:07,220
there must be some kind of exchange

1523
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:09,710
mechanism that they give to people and

1524
01:12:13,359 --> 01:12:12,410
say we will look off to you if you help

1525
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,369
us to do this

1526
01:12:17,949 --> 01:12:15,679
now those people are likely to be the

1527
01:12:19,989 --> 01:12:17,959
richest perhaps the most powerful people

1528
01:12:22,509 --> 01:12:19,999
in the world and of course if any

1529
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:22,519
catastrophe happens Patricia can you see

1530
01:12:25,659 --> 01:12:25,010
you and I being included in those lists

1531
01:12:27,699 --> 01:12:25,669
of course not

1532
01:12:37,659 --> 01:12:27,709
I'll be the first to go by the way so

1533
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:37,669
maybe I can say bye-bye now well again

1534
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:39,530
it's again it's our right to know we

1535
01:12:43,709 --> 01:12:41,030
have a heritage here we have a

1536
01:12:46,659 --> 01:12:43,719
background we were created by these

1537
01:12:47,979 --> 01:12:46,669
aliens if you watch ancient aliens

1538
01:12:51,129 --> 01:12:47,989
that's certainly what they're saying and

1539
01:12:52,989 --> 01:12:51,139
I tend to agree you talked about this in

1540
01:12:55,929 --> 01:12:52,999
your book also Nigel that we have this

1541
01:13:01,719 --> 01:12:55,939
incredible blast of Technology where did

1542
01:13:03,790 --> 01:13:01,729
it come from too quickly and too far for

1543
01:13:06,369 --> 01:13:03,800
us to believe is anything but something

1544
01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:06,379
extraordinary and when I see Gordon

1545
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:08,780
Cooper beautiful man by Gordon Cooper

1546
01:13:13,149 --> 01:13:11,570
tell us that one of these landed in

1547
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:13,159
front of him in one of the Air Force

1548
01:13:17,049 --> 01:13:15,289
bases he landed on and when he took the

1549
01:13:19,119 --> 01:13:17,059
photographs and gave it to these people

1550
01:13:21,879 --> 01:13:19,129
he never saw them again and he was

1551
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:21,889
branded with doubt and so on your great

1552
01:13:27,339 --> 01:13:24,289
worthy astronaut Gordon Cooper yeah yeah

1553
01:13:31,149 --> 01:13:27,349
so who is sacred and Ed Mitchell a

1554
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:31,159
revered scholar you know people that

1555
01:13:37,449 --> 01:13:33,050
abroad in Britain and all over the world

1556
01:13:40,929 --> 01:13:37,459
admire how can these people be kind of

1557
01:13:43,959 --> 01:13:40,939
abandoned by a bunch of people who think

1558
01:13:46,270 --> 01:13:43,969
either Vic either they're controlled or

1559
01:13:49,509 --> 01:13:46,280
have some privilege granted to them and

1560
01:13:52,569 --> 01:13:49,519
I wouldn't make any contract between

1561
01:14:06,580 --> 01:13:52,579
four fingers and no thumbs I always

1562
01:14:09,429 --> 01:14:06,590
check my wife's fingers by the way gosh

1563
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,439
well you know it is this is a very

1564
01:14:13,959 --> 01:14:11,360
important issue you're a very brave man

1565
01:14:15,939 --> 01:14:13,969
Nigel and it's also good that you can

1566
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,949
talk about this and maintain your sense

1567
01:14:19,569 --> 01:14:17,840
of humor because this can get very dark

1568
01:14:21,639 --> 01:14:19,579
I mean it can't get very scary I'm sure

1569
01:14:23,169 --> 01:14:21,649
we'll be hearing from some of our

1570
01:14:25,089 --> 01:14:23,179
listeners who are going to write to us

1571
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:25,099
and say I love the show but I had

1572
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:27,710
nightmares and that's okay too

1573
01:14:44,830 --> 01:14:42,640
yeah yeah I know but this is a big big

1574
01:14:47,530 --> 01:14:44,840
issue and you are very brave to take

1575
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:47,540
this on and you do present this in a

1576
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:52,130
very logical academic manner and so it's

1577
01:14:56,380 --> 01:14:54,050
it's great we can't thank you enough for

1578
01:15:04,240 --> 01:14:56,390
being one of the truth tellers in this

1579
01:15:06,459 --> 01:15:04,250
world today and always this might be a

1580
01:15:08,830 --> 01:15:06,469
mutual admiration society but I tell you

1581
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:08,840
what I haven't met two sweeter

1582
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:15,770
interviewers in a long long time well

1583
01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:18,410
you know we are gonna have you back

1584
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:20,960
because we heard that you're writing

1585
01:15:25,930 --> 01:15:22,489
another book so tell us a little bit

1586
01:15:29,290 --> 01:15:25,940
about that part yeah well that is to do

1587
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:29,300
with what what where we might finally go

1588
01:15:33,130 --> 01:15:31,760
where our destiny might be it's a kind

1589
01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:33,140
of summary of all the things I've said

1590
01:15:37,959 --> 01:15:35,630
in the other books and it is something I

1591
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:37,969
suppose you know Patricia after doing

1592
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:40,850
all of this stuff for so long dancing to

1593
01:15:45,450 --> 01:15:42,890
tie down up upside down and so to speak

1594
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:45,460
with technicalities and so on I kind of

1595
01:16:00,340 --> 01:15:57,030
[Laughter]

1596
01:16:06,340 --> 01:16:00,350
okay and America the best

1597
01:16:07,810 --> 01:16:06,350
it's a lovely old country we still need

1598
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:07,820
the name of your new book do you have a

1599
01:16:14,979 --> 01:16:10,489
name for it yet I used to call the

1600
01:16:18,220 --> 01:16:14,989
margins of forever oh gosh that's really

1601
01:16:20,590 --> 01:16:18,230
powerful I love that that's beautiful

1602
01:16:22,750 --> 01:16:20,600
all right well listen you got a promise

1603
01:16:24,729 --> 01:16:22,760
to come back Nigel we so thoroughly

1604
01:16:32,860 --> 01:16:24,739
enjoyed having you on our show thank you

1605
01:16:36,250 --> 01:16:32,870
so okay well if you get to the States

1606
01:16:37,959 --> 01:16:36,260
you gotta look us up Nigel and we look

1607
01:16:39,580 --> 01:16:37,969
forward to meeting in person someday

1608
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:39,590
we'll definitely have you back on the

1609
01:16:48,570 --> 01:16:41,650
show absolutely

1610
01:16:50,970 --> 01:16:48,580
thank you bye-bye next week everybody we

1611
01:16:53,940 --> 01:16:50,980
have a another superstar coming on the

1612
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:53,950
show and this is doctor Stanley Crippler

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and he is joining us to talk about the

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late great medicine man

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Rolling Thunder he was very close to

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Rolling Thunder I had the pleasure of

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meeting Rolling Thunder only once I will

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never forget it so please join us next

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week we will be back with another new

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show another exciting show and until

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then we'll see you on the blue highway